Comments for SKYE JETHANI http://skyejethani.com Life With God • For The World Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:48:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.2 Comment on I Read Dead People by Nithin Thompson http://skyejethani.com/i-read-dead-people/#comment-22272 Fri, 14 Apr 2017 00:40:43 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=10009#comment-22272 I probably read to much, but I do try to read the dead guys. I’m working through Kierkegaard’s concept of anxiety now. But if we don’t read newer guys, we could miss the classics of tomorrow today. Richard Rohr comes to mind as well as yourself:)

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Comment on I Read Dead People by John Draper http://skyejethani.com/i-read-dead-people/#comment-22271 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:01:00 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=10009#comment-22271 It can be discouraging to walk through a Christian bookstore and read the titles of the books they’re pushing. so much of it seems so shallow

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by M. K. Edward http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22269 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:32:18 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22269 Recently I returned from a trip to India to meet with our ministry partners there. While ministering in a house church with 80-100 people sitting on a floor in an upstairs duplex, the pastor was called to the police station for illegally distributing bibles. That Sunday I was a guest speaker at a church of 500 newer converts that meet in fields and moves to stay ahead of the police. I met pastors whose business accounts had been frozen and who had been persecuted by the governing nationalist party. I say all that to say that I do not feel bad for the disillusioned. The church is not an illusion of perfection, it has always been a divine institution with human administrators. Get over yourselves. You are blessed. You sound like a country song about crying in your beer. Stop blaming mega churches, or prosperity preachers, non-committing millennials, religious baby boomers or politicians. “Rejoice in the Lord and again I say rejoice”. Every day is a gift and an opportunity to minster the love of Christ to a broken world. Don’t bring a newspaper to the pulpit, bring the bible to the paper. For God sakes, this is the best time to be a believer. Everywhere we look there is brokenness and we know He who redeems all. We shouldn’t weep for what our church or nation is not, we should get busy bringing heaven to earth. Take heart and don’t let your heart fail you now.

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by Adam Tauno Williams http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22266 Fri, 07 Apr 2017 12:12:06 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22266 “””Essentially, millennials are willing to bail much faster when they become disillusioned”””

How much of that is financial? Millennials are a financially stressed group in a rapidly evolving economy. How are the organizations that desire their loyalty addressing or even talking about that?

Previous generations had more wealth-per-capita; at least in the “middle class”. So they could afford more loyalty.

As a community organization & transit advocate I hear that side of the story all the time. But most established institutions – especially Evangelical ones – seem stone-cold-deaf to these issues: those people did not experience the world that way, so they do not even consider the economic issue. It is more expensive to establish yourself now, and wages are a flat line.

So – what can institutions do to lower the **actual $$$ cost** of being “loyal”?

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by Adam Tauno Williams http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22265 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 11:06:18 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22265 If it is any encouragement I think one of the major issues in your “finding the folks who are disillusioned” is just one of Density. America is radically dispersed; this means creating community is very hard, we have physically built a nation non-conducive to community formation.

> There’s no coffee shop where they all hang out.

No, there is ONE in every coffee shop. 🙂 🙁 He or she is probably reading a BLOG post like this on their phone wondering “Where my peeps at?”. The answer is a sad ‘everywhere and nowhere’.

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by Katherina Stegerman http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22263 Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:44:17 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22263 What’s so sad to me about this is that there are genuine people trying to love and make an impact on the world, the problem is that they are not getting the attention of the media – Christian or otherwise. The Kingdom of Heaven is so upside down that what the world, even the Christian world, deems worthy of attention is completely opposite what Jesus calls us to, and should this not be the way it is? I try to love and be love to those around me, I try (though I am not perfect) to do this without the desire to be part of a mainstream anything, Christianity or otherwise. I strive to become like Christ, and I find a community around me that does the same. We won’t be getting rave reviews from anyone any time soon. I think the work of Christ is often completely unnoticed until it is complete.

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by Daniel Geaslen http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22262 Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:09:08 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22262 Thanks Skye, as a full time missionary I see the exact same disillusionment on the mission field with coworkers and myself. Some would want to pin the disillusionment on generational lines, but that’s simply not true. The older generations had those who were disillusioned, and they left the mission field. As a borderline millennial, I see my l myself agreeing on different subjects with both sides of the rapidly growing generational divide. It breaks my heart to see a coming crisis in missions as groups like my mission face losing over half their staff in 5-10 years for to retirement, but seem unable to recruit and keep new people. I seriously doubt this is caused by a lack of vision for missions in millennials, but a lack of commitment to an organization. Instead millenials are committed to their faith and their God, but will drop the organization if it gets in the way. Essentially, millennials are willing to bail much faster when they become disillusioned. This message is excellent and timely for me and I’m sure for many. ‘We must watch for and resist the temptations of assimilation and anger. Instead, let’s trust in God even as we pray, “How long, O Lord?”’

How long, O Lord?!

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Comment on Blessed Are The Disillusioned by Phil http://skyejethani.com/blessed-are-the-disillusioned/#comment-22261 Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:47:14 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=7867#comment-22261 100% agree. The corporatized feeling of these franchised multi-campus churches makes it feel as though you are an experiment in someone’s business and marketing class vs. a thriving body of Christian believers. Honestly, I don’t care so much about the quality of the music, the charisma of the preacher, nor the design of the worship space. The constant focus on these things by many has left a hollow hole in my spirit.

Jesus was “meek and lowly of heart,” but many of these ministries are always touting their successes and how many they “reach” each Sunday. I can’t take it anymore. I would rather sit in a circle with an acoustic guitar and bibles, a desire to meet with Christ and show Him to others than ever venture into one of those ministries again.

We are joining with a small group of believers that is seeking to set up some kind of ministry that creates a non-profit/business to give jobs to locals in the community (say a coffee shop) that doubles as a worship space and a community center. Hopefully, this would become a self-sustaining venture that would free up finances to help the poor and needy.

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Comment on About by Church and Politics: Views and Lessons from the West – Pilgrims Rest Stop http://skyejethani.com/about/#comment-22235 Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:17:08 +0000 http://patheoslabs.com/skye/?page_id=49#comment-22235 […] The above video is part of a fascinating and informative series that pastor, author and speaker Skye Jethani put together to help believers navigate wisely and christianly through the entire process and […]

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Comment on [Guest Post] What Is Happening to Our Pastors? by 5 Top Christian Blog Posts of the Week: Friday 5 http://skyejethani.com/guest-post-what-is-happening-to-our-pastors/#comment-22207 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 03:08:16 +0000 http://skyejethani.com/?p=9749#comment-22207 […] Skye Jethani’s blog diagnoses the problem behind pastoral failure—and it’s not just pastors—it’s all of us and our celebrity pastor culture that identifies giftedness with spirituality. Learn more at What Is Happening to Our Pastors?  […]

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